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Ellen DeGeneres has hosted a number of presidents on dreams of eroticismher show — Barack Obama came on to dance with her and George W. Bush joined to talk about his paintings. But there is one person you won'tsee anywhere near DeGeneres' pristine white armchairs: Donald Trump.

After Ellen interviewed Matt Lauer on The Ellen DeGeneres Showthis week, Lauer turned the tables on her, interviewing DeGeneres about several topics for The Today Show,including Donald Trump.

After discussing the impact of coming out on television 20 years ago, Lauer asked the talk show host whether or not she would invite the current president on the couch.

"What's your relationship with Donald Trump — do you know him at all? Have you had a chance to interview him or talk to him?," he asked. DeGeneres explained she knows him from the show Celebrity Apprentice, but has not spoken to him since his political career.

Lauer then asked Degeneres if she was interested in having Trump on the show, to which she responded with a simple, "um, no."

Donald Trump might not be a fixture on the talk show circuit now, but during the election season, Trump's appearance on Saturday Night Liveand The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallondrew a number of criticisms about normalizing the then-candidate and his policies—all of which have been far from "normal."

DeGeneres, on the other hand, is doing the opposite.

"I'm not going to change his mind," DeGeneres explained to Lauer. "He's against everything that I stand for. We need to look at someone else who looks different than us and believes in something that we don't believe in and still accept them and still let them have their rights."

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